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[MaineExport]

Well... I agree, but from a business standpoint they had no reason to.

They had two VERY sucessful quads with NO COMPETITION. They had absolutely no incentive to dump more R&D money into improvements because nobody else was out there building sport quads that directly competed for market share. For over 10 years... any buyer going sport quad shopping had almost no other choice besides the Banshee and Blaster... except for a 300ex or Mojave or some other crappy handling, slow, heavy, ugly 4-stroke.

Between the time Honda finally gave up on the 250R, and up until the 400ex, Z400, DS650, Raptor and other respectable 4 strokes hit the market... nobody could touch a banshee in price and performance. Why spend the money making improvements if you don't have to?

[91LT250R]

Originally Posted by MaineExport

Well... I agree, but from a business standpoint they had no reason to.

They had two VERY sucessful quads with NO COMPETITION. They had absolutely no incentive to dump more R&D money into improvements because nobody else was out there building sport quads that directly competed for market share. For over 10 years... any buyer going sport quad shopping had almost no other choice besides the Banshee and Blaster... except for a 300ex or Mojave or some other crappy handling, slow, heavy, ugly 4-stroke.

Between the time Honda finally gave up on the 250R, and up until the 400ex, Z400, DS650, Raptor and other respectable 4 strokes hit the market... nobody could touch a banshee in price and performance. Why spend the money making improvements if you don't have to?

Oh I agree 100% that from a business standpoint it made complete sense for Yamaha to keep pumping out the same thing year after year. As you said, there was no competition. All of the other companies were producing small bore 4 stroke beginner quads. Just think what could have been if the Banshee and Blaster did have competition, though. The Banshee may have gotten a better handling chassis and the Blaster may have become a liquid cooled 250. Who nows, though and now they're both gone.

[BigG]

Originally Posted by 370banshee

that was in fear of lawsuits..... nothing more nothing less.... yamaha was the only company with engouh balls to keep thier perfomrance quads.... all the other ran away with thier tail between the legs......

They stopped making 250rs because of lawsuits? Really? Threewheelers I remember causing some lawsuits but who ever died on a 250r? The Banshee is way more likely to kill someone! lol.

[370banshee]

Originally Posted by 91LT250R

I don't give props to them for releasing almost the exact same quad for almost 20 years.

certain things need no changes...... people kept buying it so why change it... it performs great everywhere but a MX track..... but they make YZ's for that crap......

[370banshee]

Originally Posted by BigG

They stopped making 250rs because of lawsuits? Really? Threewheelers I remember causing some lawsuits but who ever died on a 250r? The Banshee is way more likely to kill someone! lol.

threewheelers.....

were not banned....... the manufactuers agreed to hault production on them for 10 years but then quads came out and the maufactures didn't give a damn about trikes anymore.....

and people were gettign hurt on sport quads.... and when the threat of a lawsuit came along honda, kawisaki, and suzuki ran liek little bitches...

[bigkahun74]

Originally Posted by 370banshee

threewheelers.....

were not banned....... the manufactuers agreed to hault production on them for 10 years but then quads came out and the maufactures didn't give a damn about trikes anymore.....

and people were gettign hurt on sport quads.... and when the threat of a lawsuit came along honda, kawisaki, and suzuki ran liek little bitches...

so very true and well put

[BigG]

Originally Posted by 370banshee

threewheelers.....

were not banned....... the manufactuers agreed to hault production on them for 10 years but then quads came out and the maufactures didn't give a damn about trikes anymore.....

and people were gettign hurt on sport quads.... and when the threat of a lawsuit came along honda, kawisaki, and suzuki ran liek little bitches...

I didn't say they banned them I said they Stopped MAKING them anyway I'm here for support I just didn't know what lawsuit (or "threat of a lawsuit") you were referring to. Only cuz I'm interested, not to argue. You know what your talking about.

[fiveOnick]

Originally Posted by 370banshee

certain things need no changes...... people kept buying it so why change it... it performs great everywhere but a MX track..... but they make YZ's for that crap......

I dont race motorcross and I do not think a banshee performs great for the riding I do. The motor can be made to work ok but the quad is lazy. The R is better in all aspects except raw power production due to the twin verses single. Raw power is only an advantage when its harnessed.

[91LT250R]

Originally Posted by 370banshee

certain things need no changes...... people kept buying it so why change it... it performs great everywhere but a MX track..... but they make YZ's for that crap......

Everything can be improved upon. Don't tell me the Banshee has no flaws and don't tell me that it doesn't have any areas where it could be improved upon. I wouldn't say a stock Banshee is great at anything, especially slow or medium speed trails which is a pretty common ATV use.

[370banshee]

i dind;t say they were the best quad out of the box did i?? yamaha never had to change them..... they sold well for 19 years.. with almost no changes.... a few changes in 91 to the front end......