Are they Bringing the 250R back OUT

[370banshee]

the part i liek about this post is the go broke racing that 4 stroke.... then watch the 2 stroke guys keep racing....

[C-Leigh Racing]

I might need some understanding to what you guys mean, my post made sence to you or you think I'm blowing smoke.

I got no idea if its realy true or not if Hondas thinking about the return of a new 250R 2 stroke, it would be great if they did come back out with one, but only Honda knows.
When its all said & done & everybody figuares out what has happened in the atv world, you wil see it was move over & let the big dogs eat.
Same thing as everything else in the world today, big pockets is whos telling everybody what they going to do.
Neil

[ChewyR]

Alot of your sleds and skis are fuel injected two strokes. It's really the only way to make the environmentally sound. My gixxer is fuel injected, of course it's a four stroke but, FI is great on it and it's not all that hard to tune to performance mods.

And I'm sure if Honda were to produce it they would not limit production for any reason except to drive up price, and $7500 is not driving the price up.

[badazz250]

Originally Posted by C-Leigh Racing

I dont know, it all seams mighty far fetched.

Now, I got some age on me & I seen some things happen in that time & I remember, but what gets me about the whole thing in a nutshell is the RIDERS.

Look back a bit, you remember when the OEMs backed out of the atv world, just quit, left those riders standing out in the cold. If it hadnt been for the aftermarkets, picking everything back up, where would the atv be today, gone that where.
The OEMs aint dumb & what they are doing makes sence for their billfold.
Take a pro rider, GIVE them some atvs & the rest of the riders will follow.
Like a girl putting out in the boys bathroom, you think the guys aint gona stand in line.

I'm gona tell you this & you can take it to the bank, you riders better wise up, all the OEMs are looking at IN YOU is their bottom line.
Dont be too quick to forget those who have helped you get where you are today because you will need them again someday.

Go on out & buy you one of those easy to ride money pit 4 strokes, race yourself broke trying to keep it running hot & keeping it together & when your standing side the fence with holes in your pockets watching a little 2 stroke pass those big 4 strokes, remember what this stupid ass ol man said, cause its comming.
Neil

I still dont understand this 1 i read it 5 times already

[cehmke]

Originally Posted by crazyracer

Not to burst your bubble, but honda is the only company to offer kick start with their 450. When it comes to kick start machines, honda seems to be the only company that is keeping them around.

Now as far as the new 250r, i am confused on two things. First of all, you said that guy said they were limiting the production to 3,000 units. If that was the case, then the price tag wouldn't be 7500 because thats just not sensible marketing. IF!!!!! they were to make a shittier version of the 250r (i.e. Fuel injection) then at 3000 units it would make more sense to price it around $10,000. Second of all, why would they do all the research and spend time and money, just to produce 3000 units, thats just stupid.

Thats because the 450R does not have the compression of the YFZ or the Quadracer. As for Honda bringing back the 250R, it would be a good idea. As for the fuel injection. Have you rode a Raptor 700R compared to the 660R? The Power delivery is DOUBLED

[crazyracer]

check up with your recent news there bud. The 06 trx is higher in compression than the yfz. While honda does offer an electric start model, its cool they have a kick version still.

[cehmke]

Whoops! - lol - guess i am a little out of date. All i know is that the YFZ lights up the TRX, saw that first hand

[C-Leigh Racing]

I went back & read it myself & it is a bit hard to understand, but if you were around in the early atv days like I was & remember what happened, you could see where I'm comming from.

In 86, Suzuki had 4 paid riders, 4 paid pit men, 4 box vans chocked full of any part the rider would need, & 2 atvs each a LT250R & a LT500R.
Honda had only one rider they were helping a great deal, but not like Suzuki was doing,
Yamahe had 2 paid riders with 2 atvs each a Banshee & a Tri Z 250 each of them & suppling them with parts.
Kawasaki had 2 paid riders running 3 wheelers & was sweeping the field winning just about every event.
In early 87 the 3 wheeler ban came about & Kawasaki desolved the entire racing team of Team Green.
In 89 Suzuki drop out of the atv racing scene & the other OEMs might as well have been gone no more than they were doing.
In 1990 it was through, all was left was the aftermarket companys doing what they could to help some of the riders at that point that were cast to the side by ALL THOSE BIG OEMs.
You catching on any.
Up untill say 4 years ago the aftermarket companys was who was keeping it alive & building the atv scene up to want it is today.

Do you see a pattern being set, this getting kicked to the side by the OEMs is getting old. History has a pattern of repeating itself & who can understand why its alway the atv thats got to be beat up on. Its not like that in the dirt bike world, why the atv.
I dont want to even start on the new atvs offered by the OEMs, they are all 4 stroke & that a complete nother thread right by itself.
Neil

[C-Leigh Racing]

I went back & read it myself & it is a bit hard to understand, but if you were around in the early atv days like I was & remember what happened, you could see where I'm comming from.

In 86, Suzuki had 4 paid riders, 4 paid pit men, 4 box vans chocked full of any part the rider would need, & 2 atvs each a LT250R & a LT500R.
Honda had only one rider they were helping a great deal, but not like Suzuki was doing,
Yamahe had 2 paid riders with 2 atvs each a Banshee & a Tri Z 250 each of them & suppling them with parts.
Kawasaki had 2 paid riders running 3 wheelers & was sweeping the field winning just about every event.
In early 87 the 3 wheeler ban came about & Kawasaki desolved the entire racing team of Team Green.
In 89 Suzuki drop out of the atv racing scene & the other OEMs might as well have been gone no more than they were doing.
In 1990 it was through, all was left was the aftermarket companys doing what they could to help some of the riders at that point that were cast to the side by ALL THOSE BIG OEMs.
You catching on any.
Up untill say 4 years ago the aftermarket companys was who was keeping it alive & building the atv scene up to want it is today.

Do you see a pattern being set, this getting kicked to the side by the OEMs is getting old. History has a pattern of repeating itself & who can understand why its alway the atv thats got to be beat up on. Its not like that in the dirt bike world, why the atv.
I dont want to even start on the new atvs offered by the OEMs, they are all 4 stroke & that a complete nother thread right by itself.
Neil

[tecateboy]

i just gotta say one thing from reading that.....HAHAHAHA TECATE KICKED ASS!