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Definately a huge diff on 4X4 trucks, a couple friends & my built some monsters & it was manditory for them to upgrade.
However, not a big deal to tap the breaks a bit here and there.
My shee is 2002 & the stock lines look great so maybe I never lost enough pressure to notice it.
I got my rear line from ebay $10

Can anyone confirm if the yfz lines bolt up to the shee? I ask because a friend with an LE yfz, has the steel braides & clear coat is smoked..
I've seen those go for cheap & wouldn't mind those for the looks
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I dont see why they wouldnt. Im not sure but I think they all use the same style connections
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It was mentioned that they make a huge difference on 4x4 trucks, and they REALLY do! But you are talking about 5-6 thousand pounds and 4 12" rotors. I cant imagine ss lines making that much of a diff on a 300-350 lb bike with three
6" rotors. (without a brake booster)

The truck brakes have to absorb 104.16 pounds per sq inch on each rotor
The atv have to absorb 16.6 per sq inch
And how much could you expand a regular brake line without a booster?
Its just my opinion, and I very well could be wrong!!!
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Well thats just it. You dont have a booster. You are stopping 500-600 pound atv with rider with the squeeze of your right hand. Were my raptor brakes adequat, yes. But I can get the same stopping power from a light 2 finger squeeze on my r that would have taken a full fist squeeze on the raptor. Its more of a rider fatigue thing than it is stopping faster.
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stock lines are like havin air in ur lines
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Like stated above it dosent seem like you would need to have great brakes to stop a 500 pound ATV/Rider. However with Momentum and Kinetic energy it builds alot of force between the caliper & rotor. With this heat comes everyones enemy.....HEAT. When the brake fluid in the lines starts to absorb the heat it in retutrn heats the brake line thru conduction. The brake line is the key factor because when it has warm/hot fluid traveling thru it it begins to expand & contract in sequence to the pull of the handle. Therefore when its hot it is not transmitting as much force to the piston in the caliper, then when it was lukewarm.
This is where the SS Lines comes in....When they are heated the do not expand, Hence Keeping the same pressure on the piston at any given time.
Its nice to have brakes you can count on.
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Like stated above it dosent seem like you would need to have great brakes to stop a 500 pound ATV/Rider. However with Momentum and Kinetic energy it builds alot of force between the caliper & rotor. With this heat comes everyones enemy.....HEAT. When the brake fluid in the lines starts to absorb the heat it in retutrn heats the brake line thru conduction. The brake line is the key factor because when it has warm/hot fluid traveling thru it it begins to expand & contract in sequence to the pull of the handle. Therefore when its hot it is not transmitting as much force to the piston in the caliper, then when it was lukewarm.
This is where the SS Lines comes in....When they are heated the do not expand, Hence Keeping the same pressure on the piston at any given time.
Its nice to have brakes you can count on.
x 2. Well said.
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like what was said before, it is more about consistency. thats why its a must have on a motocross bike. you want your brake to work the same on the last lap as it did going into the first turn. some poeple dont notice a big difference in "stopping power" right away but after the first ride they notice how much better it felt towards the end of the ride. i have actually heard people say they have to "break in" because of this.
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