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I'm thinking about allowing a performance shop to rebuild my stock 250r motor. Should I let FTZ or ESR? I have pretty much been set on either of these two. Which one should I go with? I plan on going big and getting some speed. If anyone has a better recommendation, let me know. I know that there are others like CT, Duncan, LRD, etc.... Which kit would you recommend? Thanks!
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Not to discourage you from your plan, but I personally wouldn't give my money to a big name mill. Their employees rarely take the same care and quality that the name who built the company would take. ESR is a good example of this. I'm not saying all their work is no good, but I can say the stuff I had done there was. I've seen better luck with reputable smaller builders who are active in their own shop.

Also, if you plan on going "big" you may want to consider a non-oem cylinder. The porting configuration on the stock 250r's though not bad and can definetely be made to run hard, were not designed for massive output. Sometimes a bolt on with some minor porting changes is an easier way to go. You can always sell a stock 88 cylinder for a decent dollar if it's untouched.

Also, know that stock TRX configurations are easy to make big improvememts on without massive, permanent modifications. Honda made the TRX pretty docile by design so a lot of quick power can be had pretty easily without a lot of expertise and risk that the build won't be what you want and the changes irreversible.

Above all, remember that big power comes from more than just what is done to the cylinder. Money should also be spent on intake, exhaust and definitely the head.
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Thanks for the help! I do plan on doing a complete setup with a new exhaust, carb, intake, head, etc.... Who would you recommend to do the porting and work? I have heard a lot of good stuff about FTZ.
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I would recomend this...get ahold of our site sponsor FloTek or Jim at passion racing engines about the porting and head work, then get an ESR TRX-5 pipe, 38mm pwk, V-force reeds and thats about it off the top of my head.
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I've seen videos of a FloTek Blaster and it was not even close to being slow!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55eI9...eature=related

heres an FTZ dragported 250r with their pipe and setup blah blah ...in action
looks like it runs pretty good ...but not good enough lol i think in that youtube link video gallery
theres a couple races against some ESR 310 and stroked 310's also
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What all was done to that Blaster???? If you can make a blaster run like that, then you could really make my R fly, right?
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What all was done to that Blaster???? If you can make a blaster run like that, then you could really make my R fly, right?

its a 244cc blaster on gas ... its definitly worked over though ,its not your typical engine ..im not sure if a stock bore and stroke 250R based gas engine could beat it ....atleast this year anyways
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yeah I race with both of these guys, Matts blaster isnt nessicarily your typical blaster motor ahah and Marks 250 runs hard for sure. He agree's that FTZ did a great job but not the best. Its deffintaly got some more power left in it. He just re-worked it and built it into a 4mil with more porting... I think once he gets it tuned in he should run with matt's and my blaster... maybe.
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Pro-x 330 cyl,duncan reed cage,40.5 carb,duncan pipe,and cr ignition!!Thats a great start!!
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