V-Force 3 or Boyesen RAD Valve

[criminalpoet]

Originally Posted by MX86

the Vforce is a 12 reeds vs the G3 at 6 reeds. the vforce would allow more air/fuel. the g3 looks like it is a longer reed cage and has a bigger spacer block in it. so your point?

aint shit without any printed proof to back it up

Point is my G-3s put out like 2 more hp than the V-Force unit. Point is, is that the engine design and inlet side of the reed valve unit dictates how the petals perform in the first place. More reed petals with an insuperior inlet side does not necessarily mean more power. Also, looks like the V-Force actually has 8 petals not 12. And unlike the G-3 unit, none of the V-Force petals have their own individual inlet.

[MX86]

i want to see some damn dyno sheets. it's pointless to go back and forth without some info to back it up.

[criminalpoet]

Originally Posted by 370banshee

i guess multiple people must have had the same prolem then.. in fact... youir buddy marc cross and wade michaels had a few cages like that... i was in with them at the time.. and i remember wade bitchign about it... you won't see it here on E2S because he never wanted to make waves on this site being that will was a sponsor here..

Well, YOU know for a fact that Marc Cross is no longer a buddy of mine lol. And Marc nor Wade had even heard of G3s until I got a unit, used it, and passed it on. In fact, Marc was very happy with the G3s, especially after seeing the dyno print outs that I PERSONALLY payed for and did out here in Albuquerque. In fact, Marc was so impressed that he actually started to PUSH THE G3s and had invited Will, the owner of 1 Dir Racing to come on the board from time to time to answer questions about the G3 unit. No need to lie about things to discredit me man, thats pretty low lol.

And, the only involvement that Wade had with Hollywood dirt was that his kid was sponcered by HWD and ran one of Marcs motors in it. HWD crashed and burned as a business not some 2 months after Wade sons motor was built. Dont try to presume to know about things that you know absolutely nothing about lol.

Anyways, im not going to ruin this guys thread, obviously my point is proven. You all can take a look at the pics that I put up right in front of your eyes, or you can listen to the invalid words coming from the mouths of people that realistically dont know any better lol. Proof is in the pudding just take a look at the pics. Pics show facts in design and display the obvious.

[370banshee]

Originally Posted by criminalpoet

And, the only involvement that Wade had with Hollywood dirt was that his kid was sponcered by HWD and ran one of Marcs motors in it. HWD crashed and burned as a business not some 2 months after Wade sons motor was built. Dont try to presume to know about things that you know absolutely nothing about lol.

well evidently we both have differnet stories... marc is the guy that taught wade about building motors.. they'd been friends for 20+ years.. and.. in the end when HWD took a dive.. IT WAS ON WADES MONEY!! marcs ex wife had atakend just about everything he owned.. marc had to move the shop INTO A BUILDING IN WADES NAME.. there were two locations then.. one in portersville, PA and one in ohio where marc was at.. MMS (wade) had a deal selling MZ(?) motorcyles.. and when marc left he took the 3 bikes they had in stock over there.. he also took the building lease money for 3 months, and over a months worth of parts order money... this is the story i got.. i was buddies with wade for over a year.. he was the main parts supplier on this site.. and i did alot of businees with him.. talked to him pretty much daily.. and we were planning a MMS satelite business in Indiana... guess who the man was gonna be there?

[370banshee]

anyway it doesn't matter we both got FUCKED

[criminalpoet]

Yea when I first met Marc he was a really stand up guy, but in the end he just totally changed. His business started to crash once I left the company, and just was never the same. You can have all the engine building talent in the world, and all of the parts and money in the world. But at the end of the day without the right promoting and marketing stradegies you will fail. What a POS he turned out to be! Divorce or not he should have remained ethical! Oh well, I will leave it in Gods hands to deal with Marcs actions. Bad karma is a motha and it sounds to me like hes neck deep in it!

[flotek]

Originally Posted by criminalpoet

Oh well, I will leave it in Gods hands to deal with Marcs actions. Bad karma is a motha and it sounds to me like hes neck deep in it!

well said ...you truely reap what you sow ,it ALWAYS comes back around

[370banshee]

wade and marc will both burn in hell... hopefully i'm nto there to watch haha

[atcsteve]

Wow,no mention of the duncan cages? The are very good,and in all my drag motors! Ive never had any problems,except dishing out the $$ !!Ive also used the boysen cage and the vf 2&3 and found the boysen to be better in the low end and the v's better on top!!The pyramid cage is one of the best for me,and I love them!

[370banshee]

never used the pyramids...