sad times

[HighAgain]

Man am i bummed out !

so about 2 mounths agao i bought my 85 lt250r as per a suggestion from a friend


15 minutes from the parking lot it blew a head gasket
found out that it had a stripped head bolt
tried fixing it with some jb weld
all seemed good
15 minutes from the parking lot and boom another head gasket blown
seems the jb weld didnt weld

today i took jug to machine shop where the helicoild it got it all back together the stud seemes to have tightend down correctly but as fate would have it the small stud by the port where the carb hooks up broke of on me (this is the base of the jug) however between the new gasket and the light coat of gasket sealer i figured it would be ok especially since the larger stud right next to it tightined down ok

but now i cant get it to start shore there has been a time or 2 where it will sputter and act like its gonna start but then it just dies

could be that there is some water left in the bottom of the crank case i guess or maybe tis just not getting gas to it maybe that broken little stud isnt sealed up as well as i thought it was and its sucking air

oh well ill deal with it more tommorrow but im real close to going to the dark side and selling this thing for what i have in it and looking at a 4 stroke

i guess my question is after blowing a head gasket when you change it is there a way to drain the crankcase (you know where the crank is not the tranny )

actually better question is does anybody wanna buy a quad for 1500 ?



highagain

[91LT250R]

$1500 for a quad with a badly hurt motor? You need to find a sucker. It seems your cylinder is possessed. I think it's time for a new one. Not sure what you can do about the stud.

[Kane]

Sounds like you need to buy a thing called a torque wrench. JB Weld is a poor mans fix giving poor quality results. There are similar products out there that cost a tad more and give far superior results. Such as Devcon liquid steel. Costs about $25 for 1 pound of 2-part mix. It's used primarily in the oil industry and machinist field. It will withstand 1100 degrees, and 1500psi, oil and gas resistant, and far superior to JB trash. It doesnt fall off as time goes by. But nothing works as well as just heli-coiling the hole youself. A trained monkey can do it and it costs less for the kit at your local auto parts store than paying a shop to do it.

[HighAgain]

well its like this im not rich not even making ends meet most of the time soo i have to resort to trying cheap fix's first knowing that 8 outta 10 times im gonna hafta pony up the big bucks in the end anyway as for the heli-coil i took the jug to see if he could fill the stud hole and re-tap it i dont work with metals never claimed too so i dont know in some instances what can and cant be done soo while i was there he said all he could do was heli coil it so what the heck im there sure just do it they did and it seems to have held

besides it looked like it had been heli-coiled before but the coil had broken down and was in numerouse pieces around the threads of the bolt
shop said noway could that be a helicoil cause they are stainless steel and wouldnt break that way so i figured screw it lets try again

i guess the most aggravating part of it all is that i cant just go buy parts as i need them cant even go to a junkyard around here and get anything used always hafta order stuff and then wait i can barley afford to buy parts let alone pay for any express shipping

as for the "1500 for a quad need to find a sucker " well its like this out here (portland or.) any quad under 2000 is a good deal beside id be throwing in a brand new set of paddles (havent even been on sand ) and an extra set of rims (original stock gold ones from what ive been told ) bikes already got damn near brand new hole shots probably less than 2 hours on em bikes also been bored out 2.77 according to the shop only measurment he could give me for some reason said id need to convert it previouse owner had said that it had been bored twice but didnt know to what (probably should have set off alarms then dont you think ) figured it was about .010 each time
whish knew all the brands for all the stuff ill hafta post some close up pictures so maybe peeps can tell me if i have any parts that look like upgrades


one things for sure if i keep it long enough and get aggravated enough with it ill just build a new engine and get it over with which is probaly what i should do anyway


highagain

[zillaguy89]

you sure the bottom of the head or top of the jug isn't warped?

[Kane]

Being broke just slows things down, it doesnt end them. Thats what got me started way back in the stone ages. I had to learn how to make shit work without money, period. It helped growing up in a junkyard, gave me the know-how on turning a wrench and such. Even today I prefer to make my own before spending the money.

Your shop is wrong. Helicoils are available in every metal made. I have stainless, brass, low and high carbon steel, aluminum, and thermo-plas helicoils in my kit. Many shops even use the low carbon ones as you can buy a box of 100 for $3. Stainless are actually inferior to the shiny black high carbon ones, much more expensive though.

While it's apart, have it looked at. Take it to an automotive machine shop. They are more qualified than your average M/C shop at inspecting cylinders and such and usually cheaper. If you don't have a manual, you need to get one. It is the single most cost-effective thing you can buy. It will help you save money from day 1. Many people have taught themselves to be pretty decent ametuer mechanics with the trusty Clymer manual.

[HighAgain]

yea ive got a manual thanks for the heads up on the heli-coil tells me alot about the shop i went too

believe it or not ive been turning wrench's for over 30 years just stricktly cars and never for enjoyment ive just never dealt with small engines and other than a couple of times when i was a kid ive never broken bolts until this time that is so ive never had to use stuff like heli-coils tho i knew of them
ive never been a "gear head" just a parts swapper i guess growing up laying in mud under a tree swapping out an engine in the middle of winter for the 10th time just took the fun outta of it for me so tho i am confident with my "wrenching "skills im by no means a machinist fabricating my own parts definintly isnt an option and this is absolutly the first 2 stroke ive ever worked on with or without help

one things for sure its a learning experience
its one of those things where its so basic it kills me hehe anyway ill get it running if i hafta replace the entire engine

now its personal hehe
as fortold by the phrophecy :
i will ride again !!

highagain