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09-11-2008
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 evidently you didn't read the thread... i didn't say denny did this and did not know until after the thrad was up that he did them.... you can be as ashamed of me as you want.... it's not the first time and it's not gonnabe the last... and if you would have read the damn thing you would see others that got screwed over... you can blame me thats fine.. we've had this same discussion before.. about other builder on this site.. and i;ve said it before.. i can give a fuck less if somebody pays for advertising.... if they do and the "complaints" are covered up by you then you are enabling that person to continue...     |
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09-11-2008
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| ok so now this is in the mod section.... so lets discuss it.... you jason you can "moderate" if you want... the fact is when teh chips fall denny runs like a bitch... none of the problems were addressed..... all he talked about was he has a state title... big fucking deal.... that proves or disproves nothing and the issue is that balla, fran, superevil, zillaguy all got ripped off... and steve got a hack job and a lie... and i'm supposed to support this fucking guy on this site? fuck that.. we've been down this road before... with SORE RACING.. and with 1DIR.. sore was a thief and 1DIR doesn;t back up his warranties.. and he fucked steve raw on the 3300 stock cylinder stock stroke banshee engine that anyone else would have done for 1/3 of that... not to mention that will stole the parts that steve sent... and i got scolded for talking bad about will... well FUCK THAT i will not support BLOTEK the god damn hack... espeicaly a fucking hack bastard that hides behind his religion... mr. super christian is a fucking theif.... |
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09-11-2008
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| Chris I wasn't blaming you but I read the last 3 pages and that is all I saw was you attacking Denny I am on vacation right now and just read 15 pages of bullshit, great way to spend vacation. You have known me for some time and I have always said to everyone give me proof. There is no proof in anything in that thread. Where are pictures of these horrible hacked cylinders? If they are that bad we should have been able to see how bad but instead people are attacking with no proof besides peoples words or as 1 person put "facts". Facts, nothing in that whole thread is fact it is 100% opinion. In fact there is a bunch of misinformation in that thread. Balla said it was an air leak then 3 posts later you say its not. Well hmmm an air leak can kill a cylinder and motor pretty damn quick. Thats why you do a leak down test or bring it somewhere to have it done before firing up a motor. Honestly guys this is all a bunch of crap I have had work done by denny and have no issues. Ever situation that is mentioned that has issues seems to have circumstances along with the cylinder. I am in no way getting involved in this but it is pretty simple if someone doesn't like a builder great I really don't give a shit use who you want. All this is going to do is get a big thread of I like 370 or I like flotek. What I won't tolerate is moderators attacking each other in the forums. THAT IS BULLSHIT.
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09-12-2008
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| he fucking ripped people off.. jason obviously youi know nothing about portwork... a picture will not show .7mm... but that is a huge difference... same thing with 1.5 mm width.... i tell ya what i will have my hands on superevils cylinders... would youi like me to document everything and send it to you... i'll show you fucking bullshit at it's fucking finest..... how much fucking proof do you want? there are more people than this... i ahve proof in my fucking garage... a crushed flywheel that he shaved even though it was junk... pic don't show shit about portwork..... i guess my judgement can;t be trusted... well thats fine... the bullshit is that you blow this off while your members get fucked... and balla will def. post here.. as will steve.... those intake boots were not tore... and even if they were it had a different intake teh next year and still a turd... don't fucking tell me that your seriously gonna let this fly... he fucked over socket17 over a month for a head mill... what kinda of fucking proof do you want? i guess it's a shame i won't cyber suck your fucking dick by saying "can i port your cylinders jason" truth is denny bitched about you and the site you built him anyway... so spout of your fucking bullshit about how i don;t have proof... i'm never kissed your ass and i'm not gonna start now... unlike another certain mod on this site..... namely the fucking hack mother fucker in question... |
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09-12-2008
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blowdown is the difference between the EX and IN durations divided by 2... optimum blowdown pressure is 32-34.. so for example... lets say u decide you want an EX duration of 194... and a blowdown of 33 so 33x2=66.. 194-66 = 128.. so for the optimal setup foe teh 194deg ex you decided on you'd want a 128 seg transfer duration to keep a blowdown of 33... now are you seeing the sigificance of being SPOT on especially with a twin cylinder... it need to be the same.. what we have here is one tall wide exhaust port and one short skinny one.. the tall wide port provides ALOT more exhaust flow than teh short skinny one.. now figure in the fact that teh transfer duration is stock... i don;t have those figures in front of me at teh moment because my new computer doesn;t have my engien program on it yet.. buy lets assume yamaha kept a 33 blowdown... which would provide a 122 trans duration... the one cylinder had an exhaust duration of about 191.5 and the other had a duration right around 194... 194-122= 72 72/2= 36deg blowdown and 191.5-122= 69.5 69.5/2= 34.75deg blowdown as you can see this is 2 completely differnt port jobs... and this is within .7mm in height... soemthing a camera will not show... figure this... a piece of notebook paper is around .007in thick.. .010=.25mm this was off almost .030 or 4 1/2 thicknesses of notebook paper.. you gonna see that with a camera shot? hell no... engine work is not done with a tape measure... it's not night and day visible with the naked eye which is why alot of people don;t know what they are actually getting... it looks half straight they say ok looks good.. 90% of people don't understand what really goes into this... so to a laymen i may look like a dickhead or anal or picky or whatever... it's not done correctly.. and peoples hard earned money is worth a quailty job.. and if it can't be provided... then pack up your toys and give it up... noe do u understand what i'm saying... a picture means fucking nothing it shows nothing but somebody can keep a consistant line.. thats a steady hand and good marking.. i'm not saying people are dumb i'm saying they are misinformed what exactly goes into a consistant quality port job... now u understand what i'm talking about..... gettin in a hurry it's easy to fuck up.. you don't rush quality.. it gets done good or it gets done in a hurry.... as they say rome wasn't built in a day..... and comming from a craftsman both at work and at home.. when you touch another persons work... or go off another persons work you check whats done and go from there... the minute denny decided to touch these cylinders with a porting tool he assumed the previous work... the right thing to do is to pick up the phone and make a 2 minute phone call... it;s called covering your ass.... and explain the situation... then proceed.... like i said before... i fixed them... they were not OVERPORTED... maybe for the exact application he was shooting for they were overported but... they were still able to be saved and turned into a motor that RIPS.. instead of doing a BS job and sending it back... he should hahve made the call and steve would have sent another set of cylinders that were within the specs denny needed... i now this because i had to call adn tell steve hat these cylinders were no good for the stroker he wanted to build... so another set of cylinders were checked.. mapped.. marked.. and ported... thats called doing business.. engien building is not all sugar plums and gum drops.... shit happens.... you step back refigure what your gonna do and move forward.... I and other feel that these things have been blatantly overlooked by denny and that wrong... disregard adn disrespect for another persons engine when you are in a postion of trust with your work and opinion and know how.. thats wrong... and taking people money when youi knowingly fucked up is thievery... and if that the kind of actions this site is gonna support then maybe we all need to step back and look at whats goign on here.... is a few dollars in advertising money worth the loss of trust and respect of our members? not to me.... i've been here far to long. and spent way to much of my life on this site to shit can all the work because of a dishonest "engine builder"... think what you want of me.... i could really care less... i know what work i've done... and what expected of me in my own mind... and i wouldn't box up a set of cylinders and ship them back to someone if i would not put them on my bike at that very moment and go ride dunes with them... some people will bypass their morals for a few bucks.. and hope thier rep. gets backed up by others.... they have big fancy facades to make the look reputable.... i don;t have to sell my work... it sells itself.. big colorful banners dirtwheels ads.... youi can have that crap.... i'm one guy in my shop porting a few cylinders... and haveing fun doing it... when it get to the point that i hate it.. i'll set the tools in the tool box and walk away.. i'm not greedy.. i have nothing to prove... but at the same time i willnot stand by and let others get screwed... take that however you please but i have been brought up with morals and the idea that a job well done is the only job thats actually done... and doing something correctly the first time saves you from doing it again for free... and saves face as well... do i need the $$.. hell no... but it is nice... and i get paid for building engines? so $$ and teh satisfaction that i helped someone out and can look a the posts and vids of this member saying "i whipped a yfz450 with a pipe and big bore by 80 feet on a 300ft strip" that whats called a craftsmans pride... unfourtunaly some guys blow that off for a few bucks... |
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09-12-2008
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| PROOF? would you like me to send you every receipt i have from all the bullshit parts i have purchased to try and get a set of shit cylinders to run right? or how bout all the PMs back and firth with Denny saying"buy this..and you will have tire frying power"...i was made empty promises from day one...when id much rather have the truth...fact is that when i first joined this site..i barely new how to mix my gas and oil together for my bike....so i went to the people on this site and soaked everything up they said as the "GOSPEL"...Denny being a HUGE impact on this...I came to him at firs wanting a trail bike...then a drag bike...thena duner...then a bike that i could ride and drag race and kick major ass on...and instead of being told.."listen you cant have a pump gas DRAG bike that will still be rideable thru dunes and to be ridden normal" i got told "ok no prob ill do an "aggressive" dune port and ill have 75hp to the wheels and blah blah"...i was lied to...online...on the phone...and thru the work done....Now i dont have the wonderful pictures your asking for that i guess would make you feel all comfy and warm inside to look at and not see anything but tremendoues intake windows that are crooked and wavy...now im not saying that a port needs to be pretty to run good...but since this was such a proffesional job from a proffesional...shouldnt it atleast look it?...but hell who cares..maybe it would run great?....not the case...it ran poorly from day 1 at chris's house in indiana...and the air leak i spoke about...was not an airleak...i had thought there was..b/c months after steve had bought those intakes back and said there was...unitl further inspection showe that there was no leaks whatsoever...so we can drop that issue and that small string of hope to actually defend denny with the situation i went thru with my bike...fact is i asked for the impossible with my build from him...and instead of being a responsible buisness man...or just a man...and saying that i would never be able to do that effectively...he ported the bike and filled my head with pipe dreams and hopes of having a "bad ass" bike...so there is my reasoning for this...my money was taken..and i was lied to...how much more proof of a bad fucked up buisness do u need?...why is it that this buisness gets all these chances...until what?..a memeber that actually knows what he is doing goes to denny for portwork...discovers its a hack job and then starts a huge feud about it?...or is that im a moderator that i automatically should be able to get fucked by a site sponsor and just suck it up and grin?...i dont think so...maybe in your fairy tale world were you and denny seem to be dancing around gingerly together...but whatever...fuck it...im done...if no one wants to act on this...then i guess we will let more people get fucked and have angry people...thats fine...see what denny does is he doesnt just say "i fucked up"...he Bullshits you about what you can do to fix it and buy to have the best bike...so you never get upset with him...like i didnt at first...and u just keep making excuses for teh bike...until it reaches an okay level were its better then nothing...and u r happy...or u just give up and go a diff route....its bad morals,bad practice,and bad way to live your life...fuck this....
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09-12-2008
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| now that this is in the mod section i'm waiting for a response from steve.. mostly regarding teh phone call he recieved and was told "i'll build you an engine for free" steve never asked for a free engine.. it was offered.. |
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10-07-2008
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__________________ 2006 Banshee SE 421 Cheetah Cub with a clean up port on race gas CPI In Frame Big Bores V-force III Boss Intake 34mm PJ'S +4 Dura Blue Axle Duneable Tranny 1-5 neutral down Lock-up with a Pro-Lock Clutch Everything else is pretty much stock 1989 LT250R FLOTEK Ported FLOTEK Head Mod FLOTEK Lightened Flywheel Nology Coil And Hotwire Ported Reed Cage With Boyesen Carbon fibers Keihin PWK 38mm Airstriker/Pod Filter K&N FTZ Pipe/Silencer 2 RJATV.COM Stckers (4hp gain) She runs like a raped ape, I am able to beat piped shees with her, not bad for a little old 250.  |
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10-07-2008
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| And on the other side of that coin... Just because you guys didn't have good luck with a few of his motors (which...again, you did...then didn't...etc.) doesn't mean he doesn't have plenty of satisfied customers.... And the guy that got Balla's motor is VERY, VERY happy with it...by the way... (I think he actually rode the bike...so, it should be a valid report...)
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10-07-2008
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| keep this thread alive boys. the "silver lake discussion thread" cuz you all were there this past weekend right? but don't post in the other flotek threads so it doesn't stay at the top of the boards though. |
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