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Ok, speaking from my experiance here, a cub is not what you want. I went with a cub and dont get me wrong, its a fast ass motor...but...it's not too versatile, if i were you i would build a 4 mil stock jug, much cheaper and not that much less power, get yourself a good port job from Flotek, buy a crank, some pipes and some carbs and your done, a cub motor and you will have to buy alot more shit. I just now got my cub too where it neeeds to be. Floteks prices are great and he really know's what he is doing, trust me..you build yourself a 4 mill stock jug and nothing, and i mean nothing unless it's another shee with equal mods will even come close, you will spit dirt in any 4 pokes face trust me, they are no joke. My buddy has one, dont get me wrong my cub makes more power then his 4 mil, but nothing is keeping up with him out there but me. Figure $300 for a port job, $430 for a crank, $550.00 for exhaust and $350 for carbs, plus a few other odds and ends and you got yourself a mean ass motor for $1630.00 plus maybe a few extra for gaskets and bullshit like that.
that price sounds a lot better..lol i been getting quotes around 2-4 grand..LOL plus i want to make it a sleeper that isn't all drag. I just don't want to be disappointed by losing to any of those homos. They are a bunch off hillbilly homos. You think i could give a 450 dirtbike a run on that setup?
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WOW!! alot of hating on rob from DRZ in there..da*n.i have only bought a simple blaster pipe form him..he has been nothin but good toward me..always returning calls and answering what couldonly be rookie questions..oh well i guess each has their own experience though..i still reccomend FloTek for the porting!check my links/vids.
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Hey...I've given RDZ their chance, and I have a few friends that have had the same no call back, no answer, no nothing. Guy builds a fast motor, no doubt. Plenty of others do too. I can't speak for everyone, I'm only speaking of my experience personally....

Honestly, even a well ported dune stroker banshee is gonna have a hard time with a good rider on the 450 dirt bike. You have to remember, half the weight...giving up only 15 to 20 HP or so... A nicely ported 4 mil stroker, mild, is 60's in HP.

A bone stock 450 dirt bike is already mid to high 40s...box stock. Where the banshee will shine is the sand. Two large tires with paddles vs. one skinny one...
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cubs are awesome but they are very viloent and not much of a play motor ,a stock cylinder 4millimeter setup can make a much broader curve of power that most people find to be more all around and enjoyable (and yes stil l very quick)over say a mean 421cub setup ,i realize and appreciate yo u wanna be the fastest gu y around your riding area but also consider the chassy tire suspension setup ,i dont care if yo uhave a rip snorting full tilt drag ported 135 horse cheetah 10mill if yo ucant find traction and or your going down the stretch sideways you can still lose to a 450 anything,quad or bike .id say if la l the other setup is otherwise good for the terrain and rider a 70-75ish horse 4mill is more than enoug h power ~engine wise~ to smoke pretty much any production based machine .the rest is in the details,as far as rdz ,i have nothing bad to say about him ,because my personal experiances buying a couple products from him and asking some random questions have always been good ones .id be glad to build yo u a quick bike t o smoke everybody but yo u could look around and listen for feedback to see whats out there and whos satisfied (theres lots of good banshee builders and lots of bad ones ),if anything it will help yo uget a better idea of what bolt on goodies and tires to run and the going rates ,i know if i was going to drop a couple grand i would definilty do some research so i was an informed buyer ,nothing wrong with that ,also keep in mind porting varies so much for mshop to shop and so do prices just because somebody posted a dyno that read 90 horse o n a stoc k stroke with stock pipes loldoesnt mean it held together for more than 2 runs or was actually fast i na straight line or wasnt severely altered by dyno operator..and also dont assume cause it cost 800 dollars to port your jugs it iwll be the fastest or the most time was put into it ,usually tha t jsut means the builder wil be going to take his wife to Bermuda al little earlier this year lol
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well said flowtec, rdz has some great stuff, but like said above do you home work.. make sure the motor will last..port configurations. exhaust port timing pipes all come into play..
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yeah im going to wait till i sell most of my lt parts then take the money and put it in the banshee
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